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Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 16:37
by Godzil
Arvol wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 19:11
hi Arvol, can i ask u a question - how would u copy few times that hexagon and it's outlines using Slices transform?

Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 06:00
by Arvol
You already have it selected, so Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 07:40
by Godzil
Arvol wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 06:00
You already have it selected, so Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V

that's not what i asked
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 08:08
by Godzil
i have that setup made from 9 shapes (7 slices each). next i need to fit each shape to the surface. that means for moving and scaling 1 shape i have to select 7 slices and select them again and again for each further correction. that is a total mess.
my point is if 7 slices would be locked in 1 block/group the correction would be much easier.
is my request clear? can i make that using slices transform for instead?
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 09:41
by He2neg
Godzil wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 08:08
i have that setup made from 9 shapes (7 slices each). next i need to fit each shape to the surface. that means for moving and scaling 1 shape i have to select 7 slices and select them again and again for each further correction. that is a total mess.
is my request clear? can i make that using slices transform for instead?
No Slice Transform is not doing the actual mapping for you

SliceTF is just a tool to have quick changes on the input mapping side...
If you need multiple slices for one objekt then indeed you are asking the right thing ( to goup slices in the Advanced Output (output mapping)
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:01
by Godzil
He2neg wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 09:41
thanks for understanding
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 16:41
by Arvol
I would make the 7 or so copies in Advanced Output just like you have done. With each look as it's own virtual screen, then in Slice Transform I would cycle the looks (Screens).
You're doing it right, making your looks and mapping them in Advanced Output. I would just do each look as it's own screen, then add these screens into Slice Transform and use a rotary knob to cycle between them (how I have been cycling between looks for a year or so).
Unless I'm missing something here?
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 17:48
by He2neg
Arvol wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 16:41
I would make the 7 or so copies in Advanced Output just like you have done. With each look as it's own virtual screen, then in Slice Transform I would cycle the looks (Screens).
You're doing it right, making your looks and mapping them in Advanced Output. I would just do each look as it's own screen, then add these screens into Slice Transform and use a rotary knob to cycle between them (how I have been cycling between looks for a year or so).
Unless I'm missing something here?
Yes all correct... The thing i think you are missing is he wanted to speed up his mapping

After the mapping is done the way you do the slice grouping with dummy screens is nice.
But dont solve the problem he have... He prepared multiple slices to match the shape, then he uses this multiple slices at once to move, zoom, disort till this (group) of slices is at the place they need to be. And now he allways need to select all the slices again if he drop the focus, thats all.... Its a small problem, but i see that this cost some time
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 21:16
by Arvol
Welcome to advanced mapping 101. It takes time (If you want it done right). I wish there was ways to speed things up, but I'm not sure of anyway to really do it.
Joris has a tool called StageFlow that has saved me many hours on festival sites, maybe that can help as well?
https://hybridvisuals.nl/stageflow/
Re: blocks/groups in Advanced Output
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 08:06
by Godzil
it's not a small problem for me. i'm vjing on small open-air underground parties with almost no possibilities for previous preparations. all projection mapping and setups i'm actually doing on site. in very short times. the corrections i'm making while people are on the dancefloor. so, the fast and easy Advanced Setup is extremely important tool in my work.
i hope that resolume guys are reading this topic and will take my suggestion in consideration. doesn't seem like a big deal to make it.