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No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shuttle

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 22:57
by martino.cerati
Hi all,

i tried everything to import an HDMI 1080p signal from a Macbook Pro
with a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle into my Macbook pro Display retina via Thunderbolt.

impossible.

Tried with:

- Thunderbolt-HDMI --> HDMI IN (Blackmagic) = Black screen
- Thunderbolt-VGA --> VGA-DVI(I) --> DVI(I)-HDMI --> HDMI IN (Blackmagic) = Black screen, also in other monitors
- Thundebolt-DVI --> DVI(I)-HDMI --> HDMI IN (Blackmagic) = Black screen, also in other monitors
- HDMI Output to SWITHCER ATEN VS0801H --> HDMI OUT - HDMI IN (Blackmagic) - Black screen

(http://www.aten.com/Professional-Audio/ ... 0801H.html)

I'm going tomorrow to try with a VGA (with support to 1080p)-->HDMI MALE adaptator
and the at 29 of May with a HDCP Passtrought.

(http://www.amazon.it/SWITCH-PORTE-AUTOM ... TECH+SW-01)

If my idea is correct, Folsom ImagePRO-2 can do an HDCP passtrought and permit me to import an HDMI signal from a Macbook pro into mine with a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle Thunderbolt, but actually no any chance to import a 1080p source from an Apple laptop to another one into Arena.

Also no any chance to import a 720p source from a Macbook pro.

It is correct that it can be possible for HDCP protection?
Any idea to make it possible without $10.000 and also to make it possible for the 30 of may?

Help me. Please!
This is a message to the community and also to the Resolume crew to explain certainly this Blackmagic D.S. limit from a limit imposed by Intel.
I understood that BMD is compatible but it is limited by other. Any solution again?

Martin.

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 22:58
by martino.cerati
I forgot that i will try tomorrow with HDFURY 3 like an HDCP Passtrought.

M.

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 23:04
by He2neg
-Make sure you chose the right /and actuall/ resolution in every party of your signal chain.

-Kill HDCP in the Output of your mac ( its possible / maybe google it )

Get a Ligawo HDMI Splitter ( it kills HDCP / although it shouldnt/ weird stuff but very nice for use)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/like/37096628188 ... ue&viphx=1

Thats the

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 23:06
by martino.cerati
not working.

i tried today with HDFURY 3D (4) and it killed HDCP
i plugged VGA link to my monitor for preview and i verified that fury was running. good.

next i tried to plug hdmi output from hdfury to my monitor and it works again
but when i plugged it into Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle, nothing. NOT WORKS.

Tried with HDMI-Component and tried with all resolution plus time and NOT WORKING.
Tried with VGA 1080p IN to HDMI OUT into HDMI of BMD and black screen.

The only channel that is running is COMPOSITE or HDMI at PAL with a DVD PLAYER,
also with SAT SKY and HDFURY into HDMI IN of BMD i can see at 1080i video for 1 sec and then only some video noise with no video again only a shuttering of noise and channel V+Audio.

This is a message to Resolume crew
please give me a solution, BMD is still not working to resolume and also with MAC in general.

What i've to do?

m.

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 01:46
by dirtyjohn_lv
Have you changed the input on the shuttle from component to HDMI in Desktop Video?

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 08:34
by martino.cerati
absolutly yes

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 09:02
by He2neg
Maybe / JUST maybe... you have a broken shuttle ?!

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 03:01
by martino.cerati
Anyone know (or someone of Resolume crew) if BLACKMAGIC DESIGN ULTRASTUDIO 4K via thunderbolt
is supported for import HDMI in Resolume like a normal capture card?

Martin.

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:15
by Joris
For troubleshooting problems with Blackmagic devices via HDMI, please take the following steps.

1. Connect the MBP to the BM box via a normal MiniDP to HDMI adapter. We use off the shelf adapters by Belkin.
2. The MBP sending to the BM box should now show a BMD device as a secondary display.
3. Select the resolution you want to send. Change the refresh rate to 50 (PAL) or 60 (NTSC) when necessary.
4. On the computer receiving the signal, launch BM's own software Media Express to check the incoming signal.

If anything is not working for you during these steps, your problem is with Blackmagic, and can not be solved by us.

5. After you have checked the signal flow, launch Resolume and load an instance of the Blackmagic device as a live camera from the Sources menu.
6. Select HDMI as your connection, and choose the correct resolution and refresh rate.

Apple computers do not require a HDCP stripper. If you are not getting a signal, HDCP is not your problem. An HDFury will not solve your issue. If it goes wrong during steps 1-4, contact Blackmagic. If it goes wrong during step 5-6, send us a mail@resolume.com.

Re: No chance to IMPORT HDMI into Blackmagic INTENSITY Shutt

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 02:40
by lotech
It seems you're getting all the same advice as you got on the Facebook forums. Although you think its HDCP it probably not as many of us are doing what you're trying to and have never (ever) had to deal with HDCP.

I can personally confirm that you can capture from a MacBook into a Blackmagic capture device - although we don't have a Intensity Shuttle I have tested it via an Thunderbolt based Ultrastudio 3D and Mini Recorder and a PCIe based Mini Recorder and Intensity Pro.

Also as you say you're trying to run 1080P into it - is it 1080P25/30 or 1080P50/60? The Ultrastudios don't capture P50/60 and you need to go for a lower frame rate. Also look into using Display Maestro or Display Menu as they may give you more refresh rates than you can access via Display Settings.

Also don't go converting to VGA at any point as that just make things confusing and other than knowing its not HDCP your source computer may be getting weird/different EDID and no sending a standard HD signal.

Otherwise as @He2neg said - maybe you have a bung shuttle?