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Unwanted banding

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:51
by kratata
Hi all !

I produced a video which is a moving gradient. Fail, because in the export whatever quality i'm rendering, the banding appears.
Does anyone have a trick to get less banding in resolume ? Maybe a effect ?
Or did you ever found a good trick in After effects to get less ? Or a codec that does not have banding and still plays in resolume ? :D

Here is a screenshot.
Thanks anyway !

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:52
by Basic
Is the gradient an image or a DXV file?

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 15:08
by Oaktown
Have you tried the built-in gradient function which you will find under [Sources] which can be animated to move using the [Slide] effect.

You can adjust the gradient's render width and/or height, all the color, position and movement parameters to suit your needs and you can fine tune it using other effects.

Hopefully this can work for you.

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 16:38
by kratata
Hi thanks for the reply.

It's a animation out of after effects, which has different shadows etc. so only the gradient effect in rslm will not do, but, maybe a nice feature to play around in the future ;)

So, it's a DXV video.
I also found this : http://greyscalegorilla.com/blog/tutori ... er-effects
If other people have the same problem ;)

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 00:03
by Basic
yeah it can be a good solution but I've never found it be 100% effective. DXV will leave some compression artefacts and this may be an issue too.

Have you re-rendered? If so how does it look? Could you upload a screenshot. I'm interested to see how it looks.

As oaktown mentioned you have the option of making a gradient in Resolume as well.

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 14:25
by mfo
it is 8bit, so you will have banding with any codec. but indeed dxv makes banding issues in darker gradients even a bit worse. (that has been extensively discussed in various topics her ein the forums, i.e. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9586)

you could try to a add a little bit of noise on top, it pretty much makes the banding disappear (also for h.264 for vimeo or other release formats this is a good strategy):
http://www.eoshd.com/content/12923/cure ... -holds-key

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:02
by kratata
Thanks for the replys !
I got rid of almost all banding in the file, through adding a little noise and first making png files and than exporting to dxv and a little bit of magic.

But still you see some banding when projected, although not in resolume, only on the wall.
Guess that's a beamer issue right ?
Or maybe anyone has tips ? adding live grain ? :|

Re: Unwanted banding

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:30
by mfo
if it is only in the projection it might very well be the projector - after all it is signal chain of 8bit colour depths. unfortunately. meh :/