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NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 06:24
by armedwithharmony
Fairly new here. I see some VJ Pool's Sites offer downloads in various formats
Using Resolume Arena 5 on a Macbook Pro

240
480
1080
DXV (suggested for resolume arena 5)
NTSC
PAL

My question is what is better (or the difference between NTSC and PAL)
I am using to video map mainly dj stages.

Thanks

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 07:09
by Oaktown
Everything you listed is a resolution except for DXV which is a QuickTime codec developed by the Resolume team to .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codec

https://resolume.com/software/codec

NTSC and PAL are also first and foremost old analog broadcasting standards

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC

1080p is also the newer high definition digital broadcasting standard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p

And to answer your main question, I would stick with 1080 (or 4K) resolution in DXV codec assuming you’re using Resolume

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 07:12
by armedwithharmony
Converting older file types into DXV via Mpeg Streamclip is a good thing?

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 07:28
by Oaktown
Yes, if you use Resolume but I don’t believe you’ll be able to preserve the alpha channel.

Until the Resolume team comes up with their own encoding interface, Adobe Media Encoder is the golden standard encoding.

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 07:33
by armedwithharmony
Thanks.
Currently Using Wondershare or Mpeg Streamclip.
I'll check out the free trial as it looks like you can't purchase but it a part of larger products like Premier / After Effects.

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 17:07
by francoe
Media Encoder is broadly used just because it comes with adobe software and people allready have it.
But have no advantage over any other encoding software. You can use any of your choice with same success.
You can even use quicktime itself to encode with same results (yes, no batch encoding there).

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 17:34
by Oaktown
francoe wrote:But have no advantage over any other encoding software. You can use any of your choice with same success.
I respectfully disagree with you! You might get the same success if you are doing direct re-encoding )(1 to 1) but AME definitely has a much broader set of options for fine tuning your media.

Things like time interpolation, the ability to export Alpha only, timecode overlay, loudness normalization, etc... are not offered in many other programs as far as I know.

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 23:01
by armedwithharmony
1) Do you run all files in audobe media encoder and convert to DXV before using in Resolume (if they don't already come in that format?
2) Suggested Encode Settings?

See image below

Image
https://imgur.com/a/4F5Nf

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 23:22
by Oaktown
1) Do you run all files in audobe media encoder and convert to DXV before using in Resolume (if they don't already come in that format?
Yes whenever I can but sometimes there is just no time for it. Best practice is to create a watch folder (or several if you want different DXV options) so that you can speed up the process of re-encoding files. On bigger jobs, I always add a rendering station to my gear so that I can quickly re-render big files in no time. The one I use has 48GB of RAM and a 980ti 6GB and is pretty much dedicated to Creative Cloud.
2) Suggested Encode Settings?
I do everything in High Quality with or without Alpha with uncompressed 48 KHz 16 bit audio. When dealing with Alpha make sure to select render at maximum depth (32-bit or 8-bit per channel + alpha)

Re: NTSC vs. PAL

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 00:39
by francoe
Dear Oaktown, I know, but that is just editor's taste.
If you ask me I find media enconder a pretty limited app! (think you can't provide unmuxed audio and video streams to encode it) Still using it because comes with the adobe combo.
As global encoding solution you need to face it with sorenson squeeze, telestream episode, the actual harmonic's solution (don't know his name right now) or even apple encoder. All that solutions have his own pro and cons.
I mean for dxv there's a lot of apps than can do it, and don't have any impact on dxv file itself, will work on resolume as ame produced ones.