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Synchronized slices

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 22:37
by steve88
hi all!

I have two ideas that I want to achieve using autopilot mode.
1) How can I synchronize multiple slices with different contents? (like this: https://i.ibb.co/DKwjtgJ/1.png) beat mode goes out of sync after some loops.
2) How can I change the input selection during the show? (like this: https://i.ibb.co/ggGPJpj/2.png)

thank you very much!
best regards

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 21:50
by He2neg
aoutpilot on multiple layers in combination with colom start. Or just auopilot on all layers...


1) Differnt Content / different Slices / Sync

- assign Layer to Slices

- when they have exact the same length you can loop them in sync if not then not... ;)
-> You can trim the videos in the clip panel


2)
I dont understand what you want to achive...
You may find a Solution inside the Slice Transform World....

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:34
by steve88
Hi, thank you for your reply!
Slice Transform world was totally new to me, so these days I'm watching this useful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ruvVcdXhY
until today I used to always connect slices to individual layers through the advanced output window. from what I understood watching this video, using slice transform you can connect a single clip, a single layer or the whole composition to a precise subset of slices. the situation I have is this: I would like to play video 1 on slices 1 and 2 (the video is correctly replicated via slice transform), while on slices 3, 4, and 5 I would like to play another video. note that it is important that video 1 (slice 1 and 2) is always played together with video 2 (slices 3, 4 and 5). the problem is that activating the autopilot the sync between the two slice groups is lost after a few minutes. this happens either using timeline mode with the same duration or using beatsync. have you ever tried to achieve something that requires a perfect sync? if someone has already succeeded, maybe I'm wrong. I have done a lot of tests, so I would like to be sure.

another doubt: has slice input to be set to "composition" to use slice transform mode?

thank you!

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:44
by He2neg
Slice Transform can be used at every "level" Clip / lay / Group / Comp




I still dont know why or what you mean with not in Sync.

It is the same Clip? Does it have audio? How did you start these clips (try to start via colum).

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:25
by steve88
Thank you again!
All clips have video track only (no audio).
I should make the composition totally automatic, but suppose that when I start the composition, I manually click on the column 1. Here's what I want to achieve:

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INSTANT OF TIME 1:
Clip 1 :
- 10 sec
- slice 1 and 2
Clip 2:
- 10 sec
- slice 3, 4 and 5

INSTANT OF TIME 2:
Clip 3:
- 5 sec
- all slices

Repeat from "INSTANT OF TIME 1" with autopilot.
This is may be the layer layout:

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LAYER 1:
| Clip 1 (10 sec) |--------| Clip 3 (5 sec) |

LAYER 2:
| Clip 2 (10 sec) |--------| Clip 4 (5 seconds empty clip) |
this seems easy using the autopilot function, because columns has clips of the same duration. but what happens is that the two layers lose the synchrony. for example clip 1 will end up being played together with empty clip 4, or clip 2 together with clip 3.
as I said I tested both in timeline mode and in beatsync mode.
I repeat it again for clarity: what I want is that clip 1 is always played together with clip 2, and that clip 3 is always played together with clip 4 (empty clip).

Thank you!
Best Regards

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:45
by He2neg
10 sec should be 10 sec in every layer.... so loosing sync is something that shouldn´t happen.

dubble check if you have the same speed & same transition time in both layers.

hint:
As empy clip you can use a solid color source (time is duration in ms)



Work aorund:
Render the clips next to each other as one clip (dubble wide) and only need to use 1 Layer for your setup (but dubble wide comp) [Example with 1920x1080 Clips]

Comp dubble wide (3840x1080)

first clip (clip 1 + clip 2) (3840x1080)
2nd Clip ( Clip3 + Clip 3) (3840 x 1080)

Advanced Output:
Slice 1 & 2 To the positon of clip 1
Slice 3,4,5 to the position of clip 2

Clip 3 will reach all Slices because its dubbled side to side

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:58
by steve88
Thank you very much, I'm going to think about it!

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:04
by Zoltán
steve88 wrote: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:34 another doubt: has slice input to be set to "composition" to use slice transform mode?
Using the Composition as the input for the slice gives you the most flexibility.
You can also have it set to a layer, but then only that single layer will be able to send the video to the slice.
Slices can also be set to take input from groups in Arena.

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:32
by steve88
Thanks a lot for the answer! for what concerns the synchronization of two different layers I tried to do it triggering column 1 in two ways:
- via the timeline function: I used four 10-second clips, two per layer, but after a few cycles the synchrony is lost.
- via the beatsync function: I set the bpm to 60 and the duration of the 4 clips to 10 beats (10 seconds) each. also in this case the synchrony is lost after some cycles.

is it normal because Resolume it's not designed to do this? or am I operating in an incorrect way? It seems strange to me that it has never happened to anyone else, so I would like to know how to operate when you need to synchronize different groups of slices. is the best way suggested by the kind He2neg, that is creating a video with doubled width that contains both contents? thank you so much!

Re: Synchronized slices

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 13:21
by He2neg
As i said i guess its something strange happening here....


I just set up a quick test with solid color sources and they stay in sync.

2 Layer with 3 Clips in each layer ( Layer to slice routed)
Duration 5sec
Autopilot both Layers to play forward
start via colom click.

running since 10 minutes and still in Sync.


Testing:
Can you just loop 2 videos on 2 Layers and see if they stay in sync.
Set up a new composition and place solid color sources with X sec and see if they stay in sync.

I bet at the end it is something very stupid little thing and we can blame the devs to hide it so well