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Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 08:42
by yosef
I going to buy Asus ROG laptop with the spec: model - Asus ROG Strix G16 (2023) G614JI-N3138W

13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-13450HX Processor 2.4 GHz (20M Cache, up to 4.6 GHz, 10 cores: 6 P-cores and 4 E-cores)
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6
ROG Boost: 2225MHz* at 140W (2175MHz Boost Clock+50MHz OC, 115W+25W Dynamic Boost)
16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM
512GB PCIe® 4.0 NVMe™ M.2 SSD
16-inch
FHD+ 16:10 (1920 x 1200, WUXGA)
Refresh Rate - 165Hz
Response Time (G2G) - 7ms

does it good enough?
will it display on big screen properly? like on 3440X1440 ?

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 16:41
by Arvol
It's ok, not the greatest specs, but it will get you going. It should be able to do 4K output just fine. But the more output's you add and the more layers and FX will take it's toll on it pretty quickly.

The BIG question here is: What is your budget?

The 16gb of ram, the i5 processor and the 512gb of memory are yellow flags for me.

Try to avoid using external storage, so the 512gb of storage isn't going to go very far when you have a small library of DXV3 clips (on top of the OS and applications you have installed). I would say 1TB would be a min for a VJ laptop (I prefer 8TB which is dual 4tb nvme drives) but 2TB would be ideal if you're main job is VJ'ing.

16gb of ram is VERY dated.... That would have been a good spec back in 2015 but 32gb should be the min for ANY laptop being built in modern times. I prefer 64GB to start with as most of your FX are memory based.

i5 is not great. It was an ok option to replace the celeron back in 2010 but for ANYTHING graphics/video/audio related an i7 would be the standard I would lean towards. (I prefer i9's for mobile or thread rippers for desktops).

The 4070 is great! But the big question to ask is: Are my TB3/4 ports tied directly to the GPU or are they being passed through the CPU (optimus) this will determine how many outputs you can use and still control via nVidia vs splitting the setup and control between Intel and nVidia.

I prefer Razer's as they have the best cooling out of all the manufactures. They also use full metal housing so you can drop and abuse them a bit more without worrying if they are going to turn on the next gig.
They're also a bit more pricey $$ than the others, but there's a reason ;)

Clevo/Sager builds are my next to recommend followed by Asus. So this brand makes my top 3 recommendation list for laptop manufactures :)

For $2,000 USD you can upgrade this laptop to have 32GB of memory, and (2) 2TB Samsung 970 Evo nvme's - https://www.sagernotebook.com/customize ... uctid=2182
This might get you a bit further into future before needing to upgrade again.

I always treat laptop purchases as a 5-8 year investment. What will get me the longest amount of time before I need an upgrade and what can I buy that will retain itself long enough to be sought after once I resale it in 5-8 years. I know I wouldn't look at anything with an i5 or 16GB of ram, but would others when they are looking to buy it off you second hand? Return Of Investment (ROI) should be considered when purchasing computers or anything over $1,000 IMO.

Happy hunting :)

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 20:43
by yosef
Thank you very much for the detailed answer!
I can get this laptop for about $1170.
Regarding the storage, I knew it might be a problem, so I thought about upgrading it to a 990 Pro.
As for the RAM, I thought it would be enough, but is the CPU not strong enough? Like the 13th-gen i5 and the HX, are they not that good?
Regarding the GPU, I will check specifically what it needs to run.

Thanks again!

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 21:46
by Arvol
It's not a bad deal for $1,100 especially if you're going to upgrade it. the i5 is going to be your biggest hang up. Upgrading the storage and the ram is easy (and pretty cheap) but you need a decent processor and gpu to start with. Here are some more laptops: https://www.newegg.com/tools/laptop-fin ... 47&Order=1

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 07:29
by yosef
Thanks!

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 15:57
by OdyPody
I think you dont need to worry at all.
there are a lot of laptops with less power and inspecific way less gpu power who do the job.
512mb is the only problem. as its very little size for a video archive and on a windows system its always smart to have minimum 30% free space left on the disk. but as mentioned thats the easiest to update. an option could be to use an external harddrive as archive and then look to move the files you use in a project to the NVME SSD to have the fastest acces speed.
Also i think the i5 13th gen will do okay as you can compare it with an i7 10th gen which works fine for most regular sized projects.

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 19:40
by michaeldiruocco
Arvol wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 16:41 It's ok, not the greatest specs, but it will get you going. It should be able to do 4K output just fine. But the more output's you add and the more layers and FX will take it's toll on it pretty quickly.

The BIG question here is: What is your budget?

The 16gb of ram, the i5 processor and the 512gb of memory are yellow flags for me.

Try to avoid using external storage, so the 512gb of storage isn't going to go very far when you have a small library of DXV3 clips (on top of the OS and applications you have installed). I would say 1TB would be a min for a VJ laptop (I prefer 8TB which is dual 4tb nvme drives) but 2TB would be ideal if you're main job is VJ'ing.

16gb of ram is VERY dated.... That would have been a good spec back in 2015 but 32gb should be the min for ANY laptop being built in modern times. I prefer 64GB to start with as most of your FX are memory based.

i5 is not great. It was an ok option to replace the celeron back in 2010 but for ANYTHING graphics/video/audio related an i7 would be the standard I would lean towards. (I prefer i9's for mobile or thread rippers for desktops).

The 4070 is great! But the big question to ask is: Are my TB3/4 ports tied directly to the GPU or are they being passed through the CPU (optimus) this will determine how many outputs you can use and still control via nVidia vs splitting the setup and control between Intel and nVidia.

I prefer Razer's as they have the best cooling out of all the manufactures. They also use full metal housing so you can drop and abuse them a bit more without worrying if they are going to turn on the next gig.
They're also a bit more pricey $$ than the others, but there's a reason ;)

Clevo/Sager builds are my next to recommend followed by Asus. So this brand makes my top 3 recommendation list for laptop manufactures :)

For $2,000 USD you can upgrade this laptop to have 32GB of memory, and (2) 2TB Samsung 970 Evo nvme's - https://www.sagernotebook.com/customize ... uctid=2182
This might get you a bit further into future before needing to upgrade again.

I always treat laptop purchases as a 5-8 year investment. What will get me the longest amount of time before I need an upgrade and what can I buy that will retain itself long enough to be sought after once I resale it in 5-8 years. I know I wouldn't look at anything with an i5 or 16GB of ram, but would others when they are looking to buy it off you second hand? Return Of Investment (ROI) should be considered when purchasing computers or anything over $1,000 IMO.

Happy hunting :)
Can i get your opinion on my rig.
I picked up an xps 15
i7-13700H
16gb ramm ddr5-4800 ** Ordered 32gb ddr5-5600 as upgrade
RTX4070
512gb SSD

For me I am a wedding / corporate DJ and use a video wall (1 output at 1080p) and my content is no more than 1080p. I have around 50gb or so in DVX codec and use arena as more of an autopilot situation. My only concern is if the dell will be able to keep the laptop cool while it runs.
THanks,

Re: Does this Laptop good?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 20:09
by Arvol
It looks good to me. the 16 to 32 gb upgrade would be the first thing, then adding in a 2-4tb nVme would be #2 for me. Then just making sure your machine has the i_o you need.