ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

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Re: ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

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We have purchased 3 different ATI cards (worth well over 500 pounds) spent a lot of time trying to figure it out and we have not been able to find the source of this erratic behaviour, for now the best thing to do is get an nvidia card.

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Re: ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

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I won't lose all hope on AMD yet. I sat down and tested the 13.3 Beta 3 Driver today and everything worked perfectly. Fingers crossed this has resolved the problem.

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Re: ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

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To me the issue is no longer that XYZ ATI drives may or may not work. The issue is that the Resolume team don't seem to know what causes this issue,. This is fine, if they don't have the resources to support both ATI and Nvidia (after all Arena is a cheap product) then simply say "under windows we only support Nvidia GPUs" say it very clearly on the technical specs / system requirements page.

FWIW I have the latest 3.3 Beta drivers. They kind of work on default settings, but going fullscreen in arena is making my 1080i output switch to 1080p (useless for me I need interlace).

Switching on OpenGL Tripple Buffering in CrapalistControlCentre makes resolume throw a warning about insufficient graphics hardware on start up, this seems like a proper bug to me (as in it is repeatable on my machine at least!)

Its all rather annoying, and I can understand why trying to fix ATI support is hard. It would be better to simply abandon ATI support and work on other issues (such as video quality and smoothness of playback)

I wish Apple would make a decent rackmountable machine, then i could stop caring about all this shite

cheers
tom

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Re: ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

Post by kmifflin »

I understand your frustration. Owning AMD cards is something new to me, and they have caused me frustration that I never experienced with Nvidia. I bought bought to because they were the only 6 output cards on the market. Considering the investment I made in my 2 HD7970 cards I hope Resolume is not planning on dropping support for AMD.

I've also seen this "1080i switched to 1080p" issue before. Having only seen it on a AMD 7970 card I'd be interested in knowing if it is a AMD only issue or do all graphics cards have this happening. It wouldn't surprise me if Resolume was Progress Only. At the time my solution was to use a Image Pro scaler to interlace the output.

I seem to be able to you OpenGL Triple Buffering without a problem on 13.3 beta 3.

I'm curious to know if your using the Eyefinity AMD settings to create a large spanned output that resolume would see as a single output or if you have a more basic setup and using Arena's Advanced output sees a number of outputs. Or are you just trying to send out to a single screen.

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Re: ATI Catalyst 13.1 Video Engine Cannot Start

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I'm pretty sure i've had interlace working before, the windows desktop works fine interlaced but resolume switches it to progressive.

i'll try 720p too - i know this has always worked in the past.

I'm going to get an Nvidia card at some point soon as they now do 4 outputs which combined with a datapath X4 is plenty of screens! At that point i'm going to send my eyefinity card to Resolume so they can hopefully find the bugs.

I've found the eyefinity groups to be utterly useless for live shows, the config gets confused by repatching and everything breaks. The advanced output in arena is very powerful and can do everything that eyefinity can anyway. The only possible advantage of eyefinity groups is they may provide frame locked outputs, sync drift between different windows displays can cause issues, one of the reasons we got the X4 is that it solves this sync issue.

I work with Christie Spyder, but in many ways resolume is a better interface for multiscreen setups, if the video quality was improved a little and the annoying little framerate glitches could be solved then reolume would be a serious alternative to a spyder system worth hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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