Always use source clip even when stacked in effects

[hive8]

Is it possible to always use the source clip, even when I have as example 3 of the same plugins in the effects stack

- Source Clip (Cue)
- Plugin 1 -> Use Source Clip (normal for first effect)
- Plugin 2 -> Use Source Clip (normal would use the output of Plugin 1)
- Plugin 3 -> Use Source Clip (normal would use the output of Plugin 2)

and so on.

[DayVeeJay]

Im not sure what your goal is but if youre on windows maybe you could use spout to send the video out and back into resolume for the other two clips?

[hive8]

I am currently building plugins based on FFGL, I am looking for the FFGL solution, internal in resolume, what I am trying to do is build a placement plugin with Scale,Translation,Rotation,Crop all sides. Its possible then to place clips on certain locations without messing around in advanced output, its also possible to fade quickly in between one clip whole canvas and multiple placed (same) clip on the same canvas without using layers.

I work mostly with LED panels with different configurations and shapes, doing that will allow me to build these clips quick. with still having advanced output .

I like the idea of the spout tho if internal fails, I would just need to start the server all times and so on, but totally possible. Use spout for windows and syphon for OSX.

[Zoltán]

you could use layer router, you find it in the sources list.
place your clip in layer 1, place a layer router in layer2 select source as layer 1 ,apply effects on the layer router clip. and repeat as desired.
select slice inputs accordingly.

[hive8]

That works for one transformation, but i cant add multiple clips on the same layer and same cue

[Zoltán]

how about the other way around?
layer routers with fx with composition input and layer opacity turned down, in advanced output declick the slices' layer opacity setting,
place clips in layers, mix them as you like, that will be your input for the layer routers.

[Joris]

Although it's possible to work around this with a variety of techniques, we're feeling what Hive8 is saying.

You'd be able to create a lot of awesome looks if you could create different effect chains from the same source clip and then compositing the results of these chains together. Stuff like applying an effect on only a single channel of a clip and then blending that with the original clip is one of the simplest things that come to mind.

We have some ideas on how we could implement that. We do need to take a long look if it's doable performance wise. It adds quite a few render passes to the chain.

As for Hive8's specific request for 'tiling' a layer to different spots in the comp, we're thinking to add options for this in the Advanced Output. The Advanced Output is just a lot more ergonomic for this type of stuff.

In the meantime, if you're creating your own plugins anyway, why not use the same input texture multiple times in a single plugin?

[hive8]

I could do that, make one plugin with like 10 effects group that do all the same... that's totally possible, and have like a checkbox to enable each of them, so i don't have to process them all together.

Just like that

switch(....)
{
case 0:
{
this->.....;
break;
}
case 1:
{
this->.....;
break;
}