midi interfereces / midi filter?

[resa lut]

hey everybody

i have a problem to solve for an upcoming show and hope someone has a solution for my problem.
found nothing in the forum about it, but i think i can´t be the first one with this problem?

so the issue is we are doing a live show with two musicians. they trigger via midi some of our clips, so we have exact starting points for each number and during a track also changes clips if music chances.

also sometimes we change blending modes or enable or bypass different effects via their midi signal.

the thing and big problem ist, that we get a lot more midi signals that we don´t want.
so they trigger our composition speed, different layer speeds, opacity of some effects, composition opacity.
thats really lame as everything goes total crazy and doesn´t look smooth of course.

we also have midi controllers, akai midi mix, and they have several midi keyboards and controllers.
we set one channel for the keyboard one, and channel 2 for the second musician.

so does anyone have experience with this isuue? is there a midi filter we or they can use?
and where is it better to solve? my computer or theirs?

i have arena 5, they play with ableton.
all the best
resa

[Oaktown]

Make sure you clear your Midi mapping and start from scratch. If you have some pre-programmed Midi patch, you can save it under the Midi preferences.

Then all you should have to do is enable both Midi devices.

[Joris]

I think this more a case of making sure that your Ableton DJs don't send the same Midi data as your controllers do. Otherwise, of course you are going to get all sorts of craziness. How would Resolume know it's you pushing a fader, or your DJ sending something from Ableton, if you both send the same Midi signal.

You could for instance make sure your controllers only send on Channel 1 and 2, and your DJs only on Channel 3.

[resa lut]

thnk you for your quick answer! ya we did use another channel than the djs and also used different ones for dj one and two. so resoulme knows. maybe i was not clear enough before. they send midi notes and trigger values we did not map. and they cannot switch off the ´send all´.
of course i cleared all old midi maps.

[resa lut]

...and its pushing faders even if i do nothing on my midi controller. it comes from them sending us signals we do not need... so is there something like a filter we can use so we get only the signals we want?

[Joris]

they send midi notes and trigger values we did not map.

Resolume does not respond to midi signals, unless they're explicitly assigned as shortcuts by the user.

We hear it a lot from users, but it's simply not possible. In each and every case, it turns out there was some old mapping left over that wasn't cleared before making the new one. It gets extra complicated because Resolume has both a Composition Midi map, an Application Midi map, and the App Midi map has a layer and deck focus. So the culprit can be in 3 different places. And to top it all off, we don't have a nice list view showing you all your assigned shortcuts.

To troubleshoot this: Save your composition and create a new one. Now go to the Mid tab of the preferences, save your midi map and create a new one. When you now connect to your DJ, I'm 100% sure that Resolume will not respond to anything, because there are no shortcuts assigned yet.

Now you can load your old comp. If Resolume then starts responding, the problem is in your Composition Midi map. Otherwise, you can load your previous Application midi map via the Preferences, and look for the problem there. Rmember that App midi map has both a layer and deck focus.

[resa lut]

i think your first idea was right. it seems to be a problem with the two different midi controllers and that resolume does not recognise whitch signal comes from whitch controller. because when i delete the midi map for my controller for example for the layer speed or composition opacity i have no problem with the signals coming from the dj controller.
the thing is, that the dj midi controller sends on all channels and he needs it like that.
even if we give him ony one channel the problem still exists...
so kind of a bad solution for us would be to delete our midi map for speed controlls, but i really would love to find another solution!
is there any?

[resa lut]

... and i am really 100% sure i have no old midi maps in my composition!
also my vj collegue whitch signal I capure via blackmagic intensity has the same setup and also akai midi mix, also connectet with the djs via midi sport 1x1 interface - she has the same issue goin on...

[Joris]

the thing is, that the dj midi controller sends on all channels and he needs it like that.

When you cannot make the midi messages unique, you will need some sort of filtering application in between your DJ and Resolume.

Bome can take everything coming from your DJ and put it on the same channel: https://www.bome.com/products/miditranslator

[resa lut]

yeay that was what i hoped to find! will see if it works and post feedback here. thanx a lot for your help so far!