Still with the respect (as i said) to the programmers and their plugins, I do think they are very cool, and I do believe you are right about the time he spends on them.
Super Newyear Offer Extended at vjfx.com
He probably won't even read, all he does on this forum is advertise. I just don't like the American style of faking discounts, that works on stupid Americans but not on me. It's the first thing on this forum that really irritates me
Still with the respect (as i said) to the programmers and their plugins, I do think they are very cool, and I do believe you are right about the time he spends on them.
Still with the respect (as i said) to the programmers and their plugins, I do think they are very cool, and I do believe you are right about the time he spends on them.
Im reading :)
Well I can take critizism.. its just that Ive been working my ass off on these, and the return is far from what the programming is worth (well yet anyways..) the offer was just meant to be a nice newyear offer for you guys - no need to go mental. Im just trying out sales logics since Im not even a seller dude type.. wish I knew more about that.. tho I wouldnt want to be "stupid-american-sales-logic" kindof guy..
the prices on all effects (also the one plugin price) will drop.. even tho theyre cheap now compared to work behind them - other ppl making plugins want to charge more for these than I do its just that I got many.., and compared to the amount behind some of them it definitely isnt worth it to make a living.. so I just hope you ppl apprechiate more what Im (well mostly) giving. Im a single programmer with enough worries economically but I still do this anyhow.
Well.. that said I will take the critizism and just tell you my plans for after this.. the whole bundle will be 99.95 euros and contain perhaps even more effects, the single prices will drop.. the 75% might sound like a marketing hype - but its for real
even tho I agree (as you can see from my plans) that the total non-discounted amount is too high.. if youve ever taken the time to select a few effects at my site however.. you see that the price drop when 10 20 30 40 etc.. so its not that bad.. the 4x price is totally hypotetical iow.. if you bought one effect, then another, then another, then another - also then I would have more administration - since Im doing this manually..
Iow: I was just trying to be nice with this offer..
and prices will change! - as someone else said here.. this is new territory and prices will be adjusted to fit..
just my 2 cents
I will ultimately try to make everybody happy.
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
the prices on all effects (also the one plugin price) will drop.. even tho theyre cheap now compared to work behind them - other ppl making plugins want to charge more for these than I do its just that I got many.., and compared to the amount behind some of them it definitely isnt worth it to make a living.. so I just hope you ppl apprechiate more what Im (well mostly) giving. Im a single programmer with enough worries economically but I still do this anyhow.
Well.. that said I will take the critizism and just tell you my plans for after this.. the whole bundle will be 99.95 euros and contain perhaps even more effects, the single prices will drop.. the 75% might sound like a marketing hype - but its for real
even tho I agree (as you can see from my plans) that the total non-discounted amount is too high.. if youve ever taken the time to select a few effects at my site however.. you see that the price drop when 10 20 30 40 etc.. so its not that bad.. the 4x price is totally hypotetical iow.. if you bought one effect, then another, then another, then another - also then I would have more administration - since Im doing this manually..Iow: I was just trying to be nice with this offer..
and prices will change!
- as someone else said here.. this is new territory and prices will be adjusted to fit.. just my 2 cents
I will ultimately try to make everybody happy.
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
good work
I think very few people in this forum are getting fare monetery compensation for their work in the vj community, yet. Your effects are very cool, and I hope you get some satisfaction knowing that people all over the world are using your code to make art. A big problem for the entire community is that the vjs usually dont get paid enough for their work to pay their expenses, much less have extra money for new gear. The more vjs get appreciated, the more they will be willing and able to pay for their applications. I think your prices are fair, but your website does not make it clear that you get a discount for buying more than one plug-in.
If I was not so broke, I would buy the rest of your effects for your new years price, even though i already own 17 of them (which i got a very fair deal for, thanks). Maybe your offer would be better recieved if you just advertised them with their sale price instead saying 75% off. Seeing "75% off" makes me feel like Im in a department store after christmas.
Good luck, i hope you keep up the good work. You effects are the best free frames ive seen yet.;)
If I was not so broke, I would buy the rest of your effects for your new years price, even though i already own 17 of them (which i got a very fair deal for, thanks). Maybe your offer would be better recieved if you just advertised them with their sale price instead saying 75% off. Seeing "75% off" makes me feel like Im in a department store after christmas.
Good luck, i hope you keep up the good work. You effects are the best free frames ive seen yet.
;)Thanks
Many thanks to my customers who have bought some or all of my fx
and to all for giving positive feedback - its you that keep me going!
For everyone that has bought just a few (or less than all)
just contact me if interested in the rest for a good deal
- you know Ill make one
I guess this has taught me: Do not say 75% off :/ I wont again!
It did pay off some - I sold more the last 3 weeks than all sales since
before that, but this was prolly due to it being more fair priced,
so thats why I will set down prices on single ones a bit too..
to make the whole deal 99.95 euros. And it will be less for single fx
orders too.. I will take your words into account.. I do have the
"next offer 15% off at 5 effects" but maybe its too small.. or -
well Ill figure out a way to inform better.
So I guess its lesson learned.. I dont want to be seen as a
department store.. my mistake :/ Im still fairly new to
this whole deal of selling online and Ill learn from mistakes, and
I really like to be handed pointers from ppl with experiences either
side, as seller or buyer.
I know vjs arent earning a lot these days - hopefully they will when
they get more and more apprechiated. And maybe then I get more
out of it also - and yes it is very rewarding for me that ppl are using
my programming "art" too I dont have a huge crowd cheering, but
it makes me tick anyhow, so many thanks for that
Note: Im in the process of making more fx I wont stop!
Will post once there is something to look at.. and yes I want to keep
myself informed more, and participate more in discussions, I got
limited time to do so, I want to spend as much of it possible on
experimenting and making new effects, still I can apprechiate
a good thread
ps. if anyone wants to chat and or discuss Im almost allways 24/7
(tho sometimes away) in the vjchat at vjcentral
- or irc: /server daemon.visiscreen.com -j #vjchat
take care
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
and to all for giving positive feedback - its you that keep me going!
For everyone that has bought just a few (or less than all)
just contact me if interested in the rest for a good deal
- you know Ill make one
I guess this has taught me: Do not say 75% off :/ I wont again!
It did pay off some - I sold more the last 3 weeks than all sales since
before that, but this was prolly due to it being more fair priced,
so thats why I will set down prices on single ones a bit too..
to make the whole deal 99.95 euros. And it will be less for single fx
orders too.. I will take your words into account.. I do have the
"next offer 15% off at 5 effects" but maybe its too small.. or -
well Ill figure out a way to inform better.
So I guess its lesson learned.. I dont want to be seen as a
department store.. my mistake :/ Im still fairly new to
this whole deal of selling online and Ill learn from mistakes, and
I really like to be handed pointers from ppl with experiences either
side, as seller or buyer.
I know vjs arent earning a lot these days - hopefully they will when
they get more and more apprechiated. And maybe then I get more
out of it also - and yes it is very rewarding for me that ppl are using
my programming "art" too
I dont have a huge crowd cheering, butit makes me tick anyhow, so many thanks for that
Note: Im in the process of making more fx
I wont stop! Will post once there is something to look at.. and yes I want to keep
myself informed more, and participate more in discussions, I got
limited time to do so, I want to spend as much of it possible on
experimenting and making new effects, still I can apprechiate
a good thread
ps. if anyone wants to chat and or discuss Im almost allways 24/7
(tho sometimes away) in the vjchat at vjcentral
- or irc: /server daemon.visiscreen.com -j #vjchat
take care
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
Not 75% anymore - I reduced single fx prices 20+ % :)
I just now reduced the single fx price - most from 4.95 to 3.95.. and some a bit more.. offer of 69.95 stands till end of january.. so that makes the offer 18% off what is regular discount - to be more exact then
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
Cheers,
Thomas / Intrinsic
cool you're joining the discussion yourself !
I'm sorry about being mental .. , I also like your work and when I'm not broke anymore I will buy your package deal too
glad you take the criticism well,
and keep on the good work,
my criticism was out of anger what to do with my last 2 cents!
thanks for the single fx price drop. (was it really 4.95 before?
:P:P)
hahaha
Cheers, with flowers & beers!
I'm sorry about being mental .. , I also like your work and when I'm not broke anymore I will buy your package deal too
glad you take the criticism well,
and keep on the good work,
my criticism was out of anger what to do with my last 2 cents!
thanks for the single fx price drop. (was it really 4.95 before?
:P:P)hahaha
Cheers, with flowers & beers!