Preview monitor

[alham]

I love the coustum ayouts, its great, but i have one issue with the preview monitor, it isnt detachted from the output monitor and if i dont have 7 layers pushing the output monitor down, i have no way of resizing thte preview monitor..
am i missing somthing

[alham]

bump...am i the only one with this issue???

[cosmowe]

hi alham,
no me too. The only ways to scale the preview up in the side-by-side mode is 1. More Layers which push the preview down...or...2. scale the preview windows horizontally as much as it you can. But then the rest of the UI gets very small

so from me...no solution..so far.


best wishes
cosmowe

[Oaktown]

I personally typically use no preview in the panel monitors and instead use the composition/group/layer/clip preview monitor.

[alham]

yeah, i dont like using up my real-estate in each panel. plus those previews are tiny...
i just want one preview, that knows what im looking at based on what i click...which is what the preview monitor is built to do (very well i might add).

i cant understand why the new ui is changable and modular but the preivew monitor isnt..its pretty stupid.

and yes i can add a lot of layers and then it changes its size but that is another issue when im only working with two or three layers.

sorry but this should be a non issue and very limiting for such a simple feature..preview resizing..i mean its like the most important tool in preforming live and it works super well and is smart and intuitive..but not resizable.

come on resolume.

[cosmowe]

Another question.... till it get fixed....why don't you use another preview layout setting?...instead of side by side?

[Zoltán]

Another question.... till it get fixed....why don't you use another preview layout setting?...instead of side by side?

Well, this is how it's designed to work currently.
The output occupies the space available to be as big as it can be and the preview monitor gets the rest.
The Above each other mode is good if you have vertical space available,
the Side by side is good if you have horizontal space available.
The picture in picture is, well, picture in picture.

You can place a panel above or below the Output monitor, and then you'll be able to resize the panels, and thus the Preview monitor too.

That said, we have a ticket for a more advanced monitoring system.

[alham]

yeah, ive been using PIP...but its super annoying and small.. (cant resize it either)
and what panel can i put there? - i use all of them .

advanced monitoring system sounds great! - till then...fuck me i guess...

lol

[Zoltán]

yeah, ive been using PIP...but its super annoying and small.. (cant resize it either)
and what panel can i put there? - i use all of them .

advanced monitoring system sounds great! - till then...fuck me i guess...
lol

Do you use the Slices panel often?

[Arvol]

You might already be aware of this trick, But you can build your own output monitor setup using Advanced Output and Spout (NDI will use a TON of resources, so use Spout!).

Not sure what look you are going for, If it's a side by side, a Top to Bottom, Or just a giant square, but you can essentially build a custom layout in Advanced Output the way you want it to appear in the UI.

For my example, I just did a side by side view. But again, just change the concept to what you're looking for.
If you want it to be a top to bottom, just re-arrange the way you configure your Advanced Output.

In Advanced Output, Create a screen to act as your Visualizer. For me, I wanted a Composition view, A Preview, And a Layer 1, 2, & 3 View. So that's a total of 5 different views.
So I made a 1920*5 (9,600) Wide composition and left the height at 1080.

I made 5 slices and gave the inputs to match their function (i.e. layer 1, layer 2, preview, etc.)
I aligned the output of that screen to show them in the order I wanted, leaving the inputs the same (centered in the comp)
Then I made the screen output to Spout.

I then made another screen. This will be my actual output to the LED wall.
I made a 1920x1080 slice and left the input and output alone.
I can assign this screen to a HDMI port on my machine.
I set the input of that slice to "Group 1"


I changed my composition to match the visualizers sizing.
I turned off Auto Fit/Fill on each layer.
I added Layers 1-3 into a group and left it named as Group 1.
I added 2 more layers on top of Group 1.
The layer directly above it has a black solid color, to act as a buffer. (If you don't have this, Group 1 will overlay on top of your visualizer, as that is where the video's are being played back by their default X and Y values. This black solid color will blackout anything from Group 1)
And on the op layer I added the Spout source that we are outputting from Advanced Output.
Now I have a customized output window.

Even with the crazy large composition size, my machine is still running at 60fps when using Spout, as it's pulling straight from the memory buffer. If you use NDI, you're going to get a TON of extra processing involved and it will bump you down to about 20fps.

If you really wanted to be cool, you could add an extra 10-20 pixel in between each slice in Advanced output, and maybe even 40 pixels on top.
From here, you can change your buffer blackout color to Red, and add a few Text block FX to it and label your windows and this would also provide you with red bar's in between each window.

Another thing, If you build your custom layout to be somewhat close to a 16:9 or 4:3 setup. Rather than sending it to your UI. You could connect a second monitor up to your machine and output the visualizer screen in Advanced Output to that monitor, and keep you UI without one, giving more room for clips, and fx.

I think having a preview, independent from the output monitor would be very cool. Until then, maybe try this or some of the other suggestions above?
It's more work right now, but once you get it set, just save everything as a template and go from there for future shows

Skip to 3:10 for the final product:

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