SMPTE Trigger

[EBMCreative]

OK. But the mindset of what happens with three clips on the same layer the way he describes makes no sense. You can't play three clips at the same to.e on the same layer. So I don't understand the mindset.

And I would pay for the functionality of this but I have yet to see any that is simplistic as a timecode trigger the same as a midi trigger and I don't understand what the difficulty is.

And i come from a lighting background and have done thousands of shows with timecode triggers with a light board. So this is where my thinking is coming from. Also I was and still am a hippo operator. But I have been hired to get resolume to funtion Correctly and be able to do things that I would say are basic functionality.

I will say I love many of the options resolume offers. But there are somethings that really disturb me.

[Zoltán]

Are you telling me that if you have three clips on the same layer with the timecode that you described that they will all play at the same time? Or can you only play one clip per layer at a time no matter what?

You can play only one clip per layer.
In this case you could expect the first clip to take priority while the SPMTE is in it's range, ignoring the other clips.
Or have clips triggered when their Start TC equals the incoming TC.

I mean you can expect one or the other, and we can't tell which behavior a user wants, and the behaviors are quite different.
We could start to make special case switches for these kinds of stuff, but then where would you put those, in the preferences, which only applies to the current machine, or the composition settings, which would then change when you load a different composition.
If you load a different deck from another composition with SMPTE clips, would they bring their original composition settings, or should the current composition settings override that. And do we need a user preference setting for this then too?
You see it's a pretty rabbit hole to go down.

[EBMCreative]

Yes I can see that. But why can't you have the same setup for smpte triggers the same way midi or keyboard shortcuts work?

It's not about syncing a play head. It's about getting a button push at a certain time stamp. It allows for simplistic automation without having to get complex software or hardware.

I don't see how that brings you down any kind of rabbit hole.

[Zoltán]

SMPTE is all about sync.
You said it too in your post above

when you are needing to play content from different layers that have the same duration, length, even the same clip, that they will stay in sync

[EBMCreative]

And about triggers. Why can't it be both?

And my talking about sync was not for a play head.
It was to push a trigger to start multiple layers and automatically retrigger them as the timecode loops. There are different ways to sync things.

I can't believe there is such a huge fight against making something like a smpte shortcut.

Makes me feel like resolume doesn't care about improving their software with useful features.

[Zoltán]

Noone is fighting here, I'm trying to tell you it's not as simple as it might sound.

[EBMCreative]

Nothing good is ever really that simple.

I'm really just wondering if it's possible to use even a keyboard shortcut style. But instead of a keypress it would be a timecode marker.

For the coding I have done before that doesn't seem that would be too difficult to implement. I have no idea how resolume is coded so to speak.so maybe it is really that difficult to implement. But you keep your sync the way you have it and just add a function of getting timecode triggers which are separated from the sync.

[mrobijns]

Hello,

I agree with EBMCreative.
Why not adding a row to 'Trigger Style' on specific clips, that would be called 'SMPTE'.
So you have the choice to trig/or not with the TC input.

On lighting boards, SMPTE Trig and Sync the Cues by default. You just have to be carefull and add a 'long enough' offset for each track/cue list you want to sync in the same show (01.00.00 - 01.10.00 - 01.20.00 - ...).

So, If there was such an option in TriggerStyle there would'nt be any discution about the way it should be.

With love,