SMPTE Trigger

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EBMCreative
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SMPTE Trigger

Post by EBMCreative »

So I understand that this is not a bug..... But it really is.

Clips do not trigger with SMPTE! THIS IS A BUG!

Why would resolume ever THINK this is a good idea.

NOW because Resolume can't keep different layers playing at the same speed and time for reasons that are beyond me.(with about 5min of using playnext and play specific clip in the autopilot area the loop gets off about 1 sec) This loop needs to play for 4-5 hours before it stops.

I thought I would just send a repeating timecode signal to reset the different layers to restart at the first clip and everything would be in sync. NOPE can't do it. WHY? IN WHAT WORLD would you never want timecode to actually trigger the clip to start!? We are now in 2024 and to get that kind of functionality that should be basic use for a professional grade media player is beyond me.

FIX THIS BUG! I am so angry that at every step using resolume when I want to do something that should be a simple feature to use that I have to pay more and more and more!

Sorry for my venting but seriously you have no idea how furious I am about something this simple!

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

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There's been multiple conversations on this spanning a decade ago ;)

In short, it's due to how DJ's operate. There are several products on the market to workaround this (I built one myself) so I'd look into those options.

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

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That's not the point., That there are several options to purchase.

The point is that it should be a selectable function in resolume.

Or they need to improve the time keeping of the internal clocks so that when you are needing to play content from different layers that have the same duration, length, even the same clip, that they will stay in sync and not need workarounds for poor application architecture.

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

Post by Zoltán »

What do you think should happen with two or more clips have the same timecodes on a layer?
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Re: SMPTE BUG!

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I understand that dilemma.

But I did say
EBMCreative wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 02:12 The point is that it should be a selectable function in resolume.
Or you could default to a latest or first takes precedence?

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

Post by jolson »

Just to help me understand because we do a lot with Resolumen and SMPTE -- are you desiring that as soon as ANY clip, on any column or layer, see's their respective valid SMPTE timecode come down the wire, that it automatically triggers playback of that clip.

That is an interesting idea, not something that would be helpful for me, because of the way we manage our files across multiple shows/songs/etc., so we intentionally select a clip and only want selected clips to be listening to timecode.

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

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I am not saying for every clip to be started that has timecode. But a checkbox or radio button in the smpte area to say activate clip on smpte start frame that is in the offset. So if the offset is 00:00:00.00 and it never gets that timecode it will never start.

But of the offset is set at 01:00:00.00 then it will be active when it receives that timecode marker.

For me timecode is not only for keeping sync, but also for triggering events to happen. Same as midi, MSC, keyboard shortcuts and such.

The functionality is really already there. Just take one of the modules that is doing midi let's say and replace midi notes with timecode points.

I'm actually surprised that everyone has spent so much effort on something like this only to have to come up with 50 different solutions that are complicated and require extra software.

This is why I call this a bug. Because in my view this should be part of the resolume package basics.

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

Post by Zoltán »

What do you expect to happen with 3 minute clips in the same layer at
01:00:00.00
01:00:20.00
01:00:40.00
time codes?

How would they play?
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Re: SMPTE BUG!

Post by EBMCreative »

Sorry for the late reply.

I thought I already replied. I guess I was trying to and got sidetracked with the show.

What happens now with 3 minute clips on the same layer when you trigger them manually?

The previous clip dumps out and the current clip is active.

Are you telling me that if you have three clips on the same layer with the timecode that you described that they will all play at the same time? Or can you only play one clip per layer at a time no matter what?

Did you read my previous comment. I didn't say for everything to start when you start timecode. I said a radio button or checkmark to start clip when it gets the starting timecode.

Or a setup like midi or keyboard shortcuts that you can have timecode triggers to do anything the way we currently have keyboard and midi shortcuts that can do anything.

I'm not sure what your trying to get at or what the perceived problem is.

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Re: SMPTE BUG!

Post by Arvol »

He's explaining the mindset of why this isn't going to happen and is the same explanation several of us got years back when we asked for the same feature. Zoltan and myself have built out applications that will trigger clips for you on timecode offsets (including a failsafe feature). There's a reason I spent months of my life developing that app (and probably Zoltan as well). We got this answer and we decided to do something about it ourselves.
This thread might make it to 5 pages deep, but I don't see the answer being any different at the end of it all?
Just trying to save ya some time ;)

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