Arena 6 Beta 1 Some minor first try appreciations.

[francoe]

I've installed the beta on a macbookpro/el capitan some minutes ago, and want to share some things I've noticed.

Suck filter as fx clip.
If you put in the layer below a clip with alpha channel and jitterbug transition, the suckr filter affect all layers below except that particular clip (turning off alpha on clip, or changing transition make it work as usual).

In comp settings, if I set framerate to 25fps my comp fps never hits that number (same if I set it at 30fps).
But if I set 60fps they stay solid (on auto too, obviously). is that an expected behaviour? Setting up a low framerate some load to render pipeline?

Is there formal specs to work with h264?
I was using quicktime h264 on Arena 4 and 5 with great success, enconding all Iframes, no audio, and usual compressor tune up to make things go smooth. But same clips on Beta 6 stutters and become very choppy.
Something I've noticed is that switching from a DXV clip to a H264 put a 1 second black screen lag, and throw a random frame from h264 file before his start.
I mean, switch!, 1sec black, random frame, first frame from clip and go..
This is even worst if you switch between two h264 clips, and very noticeable triggering several times the same clip too.
Installed the beta on windows machine with low specs graphics, and h264 clips triggers steady and fast, even better than Arena 5 (because beta on win seems to be faster overall, have the opposite impression on osx).
I undestand this is something related to new core, and windows is still using quicktime to manage it, right?
I know now anyone can just throw an mp4 and will play, but I wonder if there somenthing to do with files to maintain that quicktime speed and behaviour.

Please take your time to release, this is a huge step and I love it. First time I feels that tools give me freedom to develop my own technique without nasty tricks. I just can´t believe this comes from that resolume we used to play some time ago.

[Zoltán]

Suck filter as fx clip.
If you put in the layer below a clip with alpha channel and jitterbug transition, the suckr filter affect all layers below except that particular clip (turning off alpha on clip, or changing transition make it work as usual).

Could you make a screenshot of this? I don't quite get what is where.
Thanks.

n comp settings, if I set framerate to 25fps my comp fps never hits that number (same if I set it at 30fps).

The custom FPS you can set is a maximum value, and the FPS counter is an average of many things.
What graphics/specs does this machine have?

But same clips on Beta 6 stutters and become very choppy.

Could you share those clips so we can have a look at them?
Thanks.

[francoe]

Thanks ravensc,
You can see here how is working h264 on windows side.
https://vimeo.com/235491102
I will capture the 1second lag and stutter on Osx and post it later.
You can see the described suckr-fx thing too, maybe that's not a problem itself, but catched my eye at first try.

This is the used file (a regular quicktime h264 all Iframes)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kgdoo581v ... cktime.mov

About framerate, if that a maximum value setting, how can I get a steady 60fps and setting at 25fps just get 15-18fps or something like that but never a steady 25fps?
That's what I can't undestand. In case that is the regular behaviour, what's the intended purpose of the max setting? I'm missing something here, right?

[Zoltán]

Could you check the Jitterbug vs suckr on the next beta,
there has been some work done on the Suckr effect.

Your mov file plays the same for me in quickview, on mac and in resolume,
I'll try also on windows soon.

With composition set to 25 fps you should get stable 25 fps if your system is capable of more otherwise, that's the idea, so maybe there is something about your system specs, or drivers that don't work well with this setting.
Could you post your system specs?

Thanks!

[francoe]

This particular clip do not stutters like heavy ones, but you can see the lag and blackout at changing.
https://vimeo.com/235494578

Is a macbookpro late 2015, think specs are not related since arena 5 runs smooths. In that case tell me and looks for the specs.

[francoe]

Sorry, I just see your post right now.
Yes, my specs are basic macbookpro.
osx 10.11.6
i7 2.2ghz - 16gb ram
iris pro 1536mb

h264 plays fine here in quickview too, the thing is about beta playback.
Do you see in the posted video the blackout, and sometimes the random frame throwed out at switch?
That don't happen on same macbook and previous versions of resolume. That's why I think maybe is something related to rewrite above avfoundation instead old qtkit, or something like that.

About suckr, is just something I've noticed that can have an interest to you. Personally, I can live without that filter.

[francoe]

Zoltán? What happened to old raven?

Good news, try'ed beta 2 and fps and H264 issues on osx are gone.
Now I doubt about if that was because code improvement, or if it was a installation failure of previous one.
Found an issue rendering some mjpeg in avi container files. I can send you a clip, but think is time to get rid off that for good, right?

[Zoltán]

Zoltán? What happened to old raven?

It's more personal this way.

Good news, try'ed beta 2 and fps and H264 issues on osx are gone.

indeed great news!

Found an issue rendering some mjpeg in avi container files. I can send you a clip, but think is time to get rid off that for good, right?

I think it should be fixed, the purpose of supporting many file formats is, that you don't have to convert all last minute footage you get from customers to dxv.
They won't perform very good playing backwards, or in random but usually they are not expected to.

[francoe]

Oh, in that case, here you have a little file.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/rcbndcxc3 ... 720_pg.avi
Is pegasus pic video mjpeg encoded (the old one we used on resolume years ago).
Take a look.

[Zoltán]

thanks, attached the file to out avi ticket.