This time I've made a video to explain my problem...
How are we really meant to be using resolume and video router, am I missing something or is the software just not capable of doing what I'm asking/expecting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWcMtyQ6zDU
Video routing correctly.
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tijnisfijn
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Re: Video routing correctly.
I would make a extra Slice, that's exactly that size and the position that you want and then I would have a slice transform on the graphics layer. If you put your slice transform on fill, it will always fill out the slide shape at exactly the same position. Even a video router. you don't need to change the size of this video router either. I hope this is the solution you're looking for. Let me know if I can help you or if I didn't understand right.
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I can only get this system to work when outputs have the same resolution, with the case of mixing LED screens and 1080 outputs, the scaling etc keeps falling apart.
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Do you send all these layers out on a different output/screen? If you're willing to share your advanced output, and maybe your composition. I can have a look.... You can also send it trough DM...
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Re: Video routing correctly.
I don't know how your set up is but there must be a way to do this with slices i think 
if every layer is a different output, and you want the graphics layer to outputs the whole screen, but with a small part filled with footage. you should also change the output map to fit the input the shape. But maybe I am just explaining the obvious 
if every layer is a different output, and you want the graphics layer to outputs the whole screen, but with a small part filled with footage. you should also change the output map to fit the input the shape. But maybe I am just explaining the obvious Re: Video routing correctly.
Slice transforms
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Great, will check that out tonight!
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I've watch that entire stream and trying out a few of the things talked about.
Nope, at no point is any of that a solution to what I am trying to solve, which is having a slice, properly centered and cropped, be able to be used as a source on a layer.
At all stages the sampling of the slice takes into account the entire composition for scale and position.
So TLDR, looks like resolume is just not capable of doing this job.
Simple task, take a slice or screen OUTPUT and feed it back in as if it were a clip, properly scaled etc just like any other image or video content.
With a hippo, just take the layer, switch media player to relay, select the source from any layer or mix (group/slice), set geometry as you wish (auto fill, 1:1 pixel etc etc) and that's it. You have latency free copy of any part of the config, that you can correctly scale and position, which has the scaling anchored to the center of that signal just like in any other contents that can be faded in or out, positioned etc etc completely independently as part of the programming or show.
The thing is, if resolume also had an internal true timecode/sync of playback heads, I'd be able to cheat this by playing the video twice and just internally locking the playheads... but also not an option. I'd just have to fade in and out the slave video when I want it.
Nope, at no point is any of that a solution to what I am trying to solve, which is having a slice, properly centered and cropped, be able to be used as a source on a layer.
At all stages the sampling of the slice takes into account the entire composition for scale and position.
So TLDR, looks like resolume is just not capable of doing this job.
Simple task, take a slice or screen OUTPUT and feed it back in as if it were a clip, properly scaled etc just like any other image or video content.
With a hippo, just take the layer, switch media player to relay, select the source from any layer or mix (group/slice), set geometry as you wish (auto fill, 1:1 pixel etc etc) and that's it. You have latency free copy of any part of the config, that you can correctly scale and position, which has the scaling anchored to the center of that signal just like in any other contents that can be faded in or out, positioned etc etc completely independently as part of the programming or show.
The thing is, if resolume also had an internal true timecode/sync of playback heads, I'd be able to cheat this by playing the video twice and just internally locking the playheads... but also not an option. I'd just have to fade in and out the slave video when I want it.
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Re: Video routing correctly.
OK now I'm getting what you want to do and what the problem was.... See your point... It would nice if the video router could route slices, screens and/or outputs as well.... But I think i found a workaround for you though. Hope this is a solution for you, maybe....
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Yep already tried this!tijnisfijn wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 02:06 OK now I'm getting what you want to do and what the problem was.... See your point... It would nice if the video router could route slices, screens and/or outputs as well.... But I think i found a workaround for you though. Hope this is a solution for you, maybe....
This is exactly the end result I am looking for and have tried with Spout and NDI.
NDI has inherent latency built into it so not a perfect solution.
Spout is zero latency but there is a noticeable stutter to other contents playing when I load and clear the spout clip.
The issue is causing me to doubt my own sanity.
How can I be the only person who wants to take a clip being played and be able to send a direct data stream copy of it into another layer as if it were the original, with all the same standard ways of working than any other clip be it video, image, text clip, ndi source, capture card etc etc etc?
It's so frustrating to be so close to the answer but not able to get it.
I know I'm "misusing" resolume, that it's more of a performance VJ tool not a media server but this is one tool I see as so crazily useful both in terms of configuration as in vj performances that I don't know why it doesn't exist. Same as "play next/specific column" autopilot option and multi-track audio.
Thanks so much for attempting though!!